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From: cfk (cfk AT pacbell DOT net)
Date: Sat Jun 21 2003 - 18:24:42 EDT

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    I am having a puzzling time with models and tclspice. If I go to
    http://bear.ces.cwru.edu/eecs_cad/cad_spice.html and click on the first link
    to tut_spice3_invertor.html and use the model there, I can extract and
    simulate from magic and get a plot with tclspice from within magic of an
    invertor. This model says it is level 2 and has a modest number of
    parameters (about 25). The problems start when I go to http://www.mosis.org,
    click on electrical parameters, followed by TSMC 0.18 micron and select the
    first parametric test result for "T43B_MM_NON_EPI". The model there, which
    is supposedly obtained from wafer runs has level 8 with about 100
    parameters. When I use this model in tclspice, I get an error for 'XL' and
    'XW'. If I delete 'XL' & 'XW", then the spice run doesnt converge.
    
    What I am trying to do is correlate and invertor drawn in magic, extracted
    and simulated with tclspice with the model parameters from an actual wafer
    run from mosis. It seems to me that should be possible. It should be
    meaningful, especially if the invertor is drawn with the SCN6M_DEEP.09.TSMC
    technology file which should correlate reasonably well with 0.18 micron
    wafers fabbed by TSMC. It should be possible to not only simulate the rise
    and fall time of the invertor, but also the frequency of a 31stage ring
    oscillator. The frequency (about 320 Mhz), is also listed in the mosis
    parametric results. Certainly both an invertor and a ring oscillator can be
    drawn, extracted and simulated. The simulated result from magic should come
    out on the order of 320Mhz. I think we have all the information to
    accomplish this, but I dont seem to be able to get past a model issue from
    mosis with tclspice.
    
    Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
    
    Charles
    


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