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From: cfk (cfk AT pacbell DOT net)
Date: Sat Jun 21 2003 - 21:02:34 EDT

  • Next message: Jeff Sondeen: "Re: Saturday, I give up"

    Well, at the end of Saturday with tclspice-0.2.11, here is where I am. I can
    do the following:
    
    magic
    package require spice
    0.2.11
    ;next is needed because 0.2.11 doesnt find it by itself
    package require tclreadline
    2.1.0
    spice_init_gui testx_trans.cir
    
    The testx_trans.cir is a little pulse generator running an extracted
    inverter created with magic. At this time, the model (which came from
    http://www.mosis.org ) has two unrecognized parameters, xl & xw. It is level
    49, version 3.1. At the next step, when I tell the simulation to run, it
    gets a little interesting as spice thinks it is running a BSIM3V3.1 model
    and not BSIM4.
    
    ;spice::run
    BSIM3V3.1 Parameter Check
    Model nfet
    
    The simulation runs, but it says it has a negative Gm for a few hundred
    output lines. I am puzzled here because I am trying to tell it to use BSIM4
    (I think) which does understand the XL & XW parameters. Somehow, spice
    thinks the level is different. I did try level 4, 8, 3 and others, but level
    49 has the least warnings or errors. In any case, the simulation does run
    and after that, I can go
    
    ;spicewish::plot in out
    
    and get a plot of my inverter rise and fall times using tclspice from within
    magic with magic-7.2.40 and tclspice-0.2.11. I do have to be careful not to
    use the somewhat fragile spicewish window and to switch back to the tkcon.
    In the grand scheme of things, thats a minor issue right now. Unfortunately,
    at this point, I have very little confidence that the rise and fall times
    are meaningful becuase of all the warnings along the way. It feels really
    close, I suspect there is some minor incantation that I have wrong that if
    corrected, would get to the next stage.
    
    Good Night All, I'm going to go watch TV.
    
    Charles Krinke
    http://home.pacbell.net/cfk
    cfk AT pacbell DOT net
    


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