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From: Michael Doster (mtdos AT erols DOT com)
Date: Sun Jun 22 2003 - 17:14:31 EDT

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    Mark,
    
    Are you sure. In the tclspice/src/spicelib/devices/bsim3v1/bsim3v1init.c, I
    see the following lines:
    
    SPICEdev BSIM3V1info = {
        {
            "BSIM3V1",
            "Berkeley Short Channel IGFET Model Version-3 (3v3.1)",
    
    
    -- Michael Doster
    
    > it doesn't seem that tclspice has the correct model.
    > 
    > The parameters from MOSIS are for the BSIM3v3.1
    > 
    > Based on the directories I see in the tclspice tree,
    > BSIM3v3 is not present (only BSIM3v1,BSIM3v2)
    > 
    > The source for BSIM3v3 can be found at
    > 
    > http://www-device.eecs.berkeley.edu/~bsim3/get.html
    > 
    > I hope this can be integrated into the simulator soon.
    > It would be nice to have a simulator to use at home.
    > Since BSIM3v3 is the industry standard, it goes without
    > saying, that tclspice must have it.
    > 
    > Additionally, I think the EKV model would also be a nice
    > addition. 
    > 
    > I believe a coworker has already done this with a copy of
    > spice3f.  
    > 
    > Mark
    > 
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Jeff Sondeen
    > To: cfk
    > Cc: ngspice-users@lists.sourceforge.net; magic-dev AT csl DOT cornell.edu
    > Sent: 6/21/2003 10:18 PM
    > Subject: [Ngspice-users] Re: Saturday, I give up
    > 
    > 
    > cfk writes:
    > ...
    >> output lines. I am puzzled here because I am trying to tell it to use
    > BSIM4
    > 
    > Hi Charles, it sounds like you're trying to pass a bsim 3.1 model,
    > which isn't being accepted by tclspice, as a bsim4 model (which it
    > isn't).  i would also not trust the simulation results.
    > 
    > /jeff
    > 
    > PS. we agree, i hope, that the model in the file:
    > 
    > 
    > http://www.mosis.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/umosis/swp/params/tsmc-018/t34b_mm_
    > non_epi-params.txt
    > 
    > clearly says it's a bsim3.1 model:
    > 
    > T34B SPICE BSIM3 VERSION 3.1 PARAMETERS
    > SPICE 3f5 Level 8, Star-HSPICE Level 49, UTMOST Level 8
    > 
    > /jeff
    > 
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